# Any point in using privacy browser without vpn?

**URL:** https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/any-point-in-using-privacy-browser-without-vpn/40451
**Category:** Questions
**Tags:** please-eli5
**Created:** 2026-09-03T15:43:24Z
**Posts:** 9

## Post 1 by @TonyTheGuy — 2026-09-03T15:43:24Z

I am asking if there is a point in using a privacy browser like brave if u dont use vpn. Currently I use tor browser but after threat modelling, I know I don’t need tor browser. I don’t want websites be able to track me (and e.g. show personalized ads) but if I protect against common fingerprinting technique with brave, they still know my ip. Do websites use my ip to track me and use it for advertising or sell my data? Do I need a vpn or am I fine without one? (I trust my ISP)

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## Post 2 by @dngray — 2026-09-03T15:46:21Z

They will certainly track you using your IP address if they can, it just becomes part of your browser fingerprint.

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## Post 3 by @mid — 2026-09-03T16:27:00Z

And what about dynamic IP addresses from mobile hotspots?

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## Post 4 by @dngray — 2026-09-03T17:59:08Z

Assuming you mean cellular, that can sometimes be behind [CGNAT](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier-grade_NAT) meaning you might have a shared address with some other users. Some cellular providers though use IPv6 and may be even more identifiable. Your country will still be disclosed.

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## Post 5 by @mid — 2026-09-03T19:09:45Z

Thanks

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## Post 6 by @TonyTheGuy — 2026-09-13T06:29:19Z

So I am fine if I use a recommended VPN and hardened firefox?

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## Post 7 by @dngray — 2026-09-13T08:13:48Z

Then you’ll appear to be a VPN user with hardened firefox, generic enough and that should be fine.

Just note though you can _always_ be fingerprinted, so it will fingerprint as a hardened browser if say you were using mullvad or arkenfox for example.

The only way to really defeat that is Tor Browser, but again not often necessary.

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## Post 8 by @TonyTheGuy — 2026-10-07T15:44:06Z

I know I am late but can I also use firefox integrated vpn? Or are there (potential) issues? They don’t log the sites u visit and even if my threat model doesn’t include login visited sites, as long as they don’t see what I am doing in the site. Does the vpn work with arkenfox?

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## Post 9 by @any1 — 2026-10-07T23:14:45Z

> [@TonyTheGuy](#):
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> I know I am late but can I also use firefox integrated vpn?

Yes

> [@TonyTheGuy](#):
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> Does the vpn work with arkenfox?

It should