# Alternatives to Privacy.com which don't require a U.S. phone number? **URL:** https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/alternatives-to-privacy-com-which-dont-require-a-u-s-phone-number/30692 **Category:** Questions **Created:** 2025-09-01T13:25:05Z **Posts:** 12 ## Post 1 by @Moe — 2025-09-01T13:25:05Z Are there any other alternatives that are secure like [privacy.com](http://privacy.com)? As it requires a U.S number, which not everyone has. --- ## Post 2 by @anon57862721 — 2025-09-01T13:29:36Z CakePay - not exactly [privacy.com](http://privacy.com) but still an option depending on the merchant and country you are in. > [@Moe](#): > > As it requires a U.S number, which not everyone has. US number will be the easiest to get. What you can’t is an SSN needed for it. --- ## Post 3 by @Moe — 2025-09-01T14:20:06Z Thanks. --- ## Post 4 by @Moe — 2025-09-01T14:26:07Z Actually, may I add that I am not 100% sure if KYC is a threat to privacy as so many services for finance, banking,crypto,etc, have that implemented. I’m pretty sure it would be hard to stay away from these options if you want to do actual banking. --- ## Post 5 by @anon57862721 — 2025-09-01T14:34:36Z > [@Moe](#): > > may I add that I am not 100% sure if KYC is a threat to privacy as so many services for finance, banking,crypto,etc, have that implemented. It depends on your philosophical bend on how you view it. --- ## Post 6 by @marthamp — 2025-09-01T14:47:15Z KYC is a threat when the financial instrument is tied to things like VPS hosting or VPN.. depending on your threat model. Crypto is 100% the opposite of privacy where KYC simply amplifies the damage American Express has a disposable CC but only for certain services levels. AFAIK gold and above. More infuriating are services that require a non-voip USA number. I HATE uber for allowing my travel voip USA number to populate the account then rejecting it once I negotiate a ride. Can you buy USA eSIM with number where you are? --- ## Post 7 by @Moe — 2025-09-01T14:59:11Z Yes I can, but I am planning to head to America soon, so not sure if it is worth it right now. --- ## Post 8 by @PurpleDime — 2025-09-01T15:10:45Z If you’re in Europe, a variety of banks have virtual credit cards as an option, like N26. That said, because they’re banks, you’d still have to go through KYC. Personally, I prefer to be KYC’d by an actual bank than a faceless company. > [@Moe](#): > > Yes I can, but I am planning to head to America soon, so not sure if it is worth it right now. Understand that if you plan to eventually use [Privacy.com](http://Privacy.com) you need to be at the very least a US resident or a citizen with a SSN. I have quite a few American friends who have never lived in the US, and I don’t know if it’s easy or possible to use [Privacy.com](http://Privacy.com) when you’re in that situation. --- ## Post 9 by @ezekiel — 2025-11-01T12:16:42Z > [@Moe](#): > > As it requires a U.S number, which not everyone has. If Privacy doesn’t work, you can try [Halocard.co](http://Halocard.co). You can register without a US number or an SSN (you don’t need to be a US resident) but you can create USD virtual cards and use them wherever. --- ## Post 10 by @anon57862721 — 2025-11-01T12:17:59Z > [@ezekiel](#): > > but you can create USD virtual cards and use them wherever. But I also imagine you can only use them online where they don’t ask for your billing address, right? Otherwise, very limited use case. --- ## Post 11 by @ezekiel — 2025-11-03T09:33:51Z > [@anon57862721](#): > > But I also imagine you can only use them online where they don’t ask for your billing address, right? Not necessarily. Virtual cards function like any normal credit card. If an online shop asks for a billing address, you usually just need to make sure the zip code matches the zip code assigned to the virtual card to satisfy any address verification service or “AVS” check. The name and address are irrelevant. --- ## Post 12 by @anon57862721 — 2025-11-03T10:31:48Z Interesting. I’ll try giving it a shot to see if it works. Thanks for clarifying.