Continuing the discussion from CalyxOS (Android ROM) : [image] CalyxOS (Android ROM) Pixel devices are $350 at minimum from a trusted source (Google Store), $499 minimum for a current-gen product, and still ~$200 minimum even on the used marketplace. [image] CalyxOS (Android ROM) In which c…

In terms of budget, it depends on what angle you’re looking at it from. Is it a cashflow issue, or can you afford to take total cost of ownership into consideration? The Pixel phones, for instance, have great total cost of ownership compared to most other phones. This is because cheaper Android pho…

Have you ever seen an indigent person with a phone? It’s very common to see the unhoused out in the world close to an electrical outlet while they charge the only electronic device they own, a phone. Maybe it’s paid for by family to keep in touch, I don’t know. My point is, there are individuals wh…

[image] a_user: As far as I know, all phones you pay off over time come with a locked bootloader that isn’t rootable (?). So even if you had access to a Pixel, and you had a cashflow issue, you would not be able to achieve lower cost of ownership by paying for it through a contract. It varies…

That’s a toughie. On the one hand, I would love to see a little blurb recommending Chris Titus’ Windows Tool, because it truly is the best. On the other hand, the issue at hand is a cost barrier to entry. It doesn’t cost anything to switch from windows to linux. It costs quite a bit to get a new se…

[image] Breeze7846: the issue at hand is a cost barrier to entry. It doesn’t cost anything to switch from windows to linux. It costs quite a bit to get a new secure phone that is a pixel. I think thats a crucial distinction

[image] anon28734771: the fact that Samsung’s, Pixels and iPhones are the only ones with decent hardware security. How was this fact established? Reading vendor claims? Reverse engineering proprietary software and firmware? Wishful thinking?

[image] xe3: [image] SteveR: If the PIN/password is strong, this is not a problem, but if the PIN/password is (say) a 4 digit number, it can easily be brute-forced and the master key revealed. I was under the impression that for at least some phones (pixel, iphone, proabbly others) this i…

I will just end my partipication in this discussion with this quote: [image] ph00lt0: We have to knowledge that privacy is neither free nor cheap. This is not a nice message, but it is reality. If you can’t afford a secure and privacy-friendly device, the only recommendation to make is to limit…

[image] anon29423700: How was this fact established? Reading vendor claims? Reverse engineering proprietary software and firmware? Wishful thinking? Hardware security = hardware security features, etc. Samsung, Google Pixel and iPhone devices are the only ones with decent hardware security/h…

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